I feel compelled to see this as further confirmation that the entire AW scenario is part of a wider conspiracy to jointly misinform, psychically attack and control the audience!
Who is influencing David Icke and why? The results of following the book, and his advice certainly seem sinister.
Then we had the solar eclipse, another blood ritual date according to AW. David went to the Great Pyramid in Egypt on that date for the eclipse and made all kinds of superficial comments about what seemed to be going on there. He said people were prevented from going in, that the attendees may be using underground tunnels to get in to do their blood rituals etc. No proof. And everything was adequately explained by Amargi Hiller, an independent journalist who works closely investigating the Giza site, in a message which was posted on David’s Forum.
But what did David do?
On this very powerful day, he had people all over the world sending thought energy based upon the most horrific images of blood-spattered tombs and child sacrifice, DIRECTED AT PERHAPS THE MOST POWERFUL ENERGY POINT IN THE WORLD! Did they really need to do a blood ritual with that kind of energy focused on it? Is this another way that David has been set up to actually do the very job he is trying to expose?
I refer you to my chapter on the predators to see how that may fit into the Illuminati agenda.
Soon after this, David re-emerged from a trip to Africa announcing a new video called The Reptilian Agenda, which is an interview with a Zulu shaman called [lightbox full=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4apWOUNOx64″]Credo Mutwa[/lightbox], who is confirming the existence of shapeshifting reptilians.
Credo recounts various ancient Zulu myths about the reptilian race which manipulates mankind, which are taken literally by himself and Icke and seen as remarkable confirmation of the reptile/human-race theory; although Credo’s version is that the race actually originated on Earth, left it and returned. Furthermore, the central reptile/Aryan race thesis is fundamentally challenged by Mutwa’s assertion that the black leaders of his country, and their bloodlines are from the reptilian race also.
Mutwa also speaks about personal encounters with ‘grey’ aliens, which he states are servants of the reptilians. He recounts eating the ‘grey, rather dry’ skin of the greys – which caused an hallucinogenic experience very reminiscent of LSD or similar drug experiences as well as a rash and intense itching. This, again, parallels MKULTRA mind control experiments/implantation experiences described by military abductees. Mutwa elsewhere, rather contradictorily, states elsewhere that ‘greys’ are actually reptilians with an artificial ‘skin’. This contradiction is not challenged by Icke.
Interestingly, this man claims to have been abducted 40 years ago by greys, had something stuffed up his nose into his head etc. In an interview with The Spectrum Newspaper, Mutwa recalls walking down the street one day when a man approached him and quizzed him about knowing him from somewhere, and he recalled a memory about being in the underground facility where he was taken following his abduction, where he was experimented on by ‘greys’ in ways remarkably consistent with the classic MILAB (Military Abduction) scenario.
Mutwa states in the interview that this exact same thing has happened to many of his people.
The link with Montauk is also interesting. One engineer working on the ‘Montauk Project’, Preston Nichols, talks of having worked in the project – which included abductions for mind control. He says he remembers working in underground bases where greys and a reptilian creature also were. He recovered the memory of this after being confronted in the street by a man quizzing him on having seen him somewhere before.
This parallel, almost identical, scenario seems to be too coincidental. I think the greys and reptoid were implants in the vein described by Helmut Lammer in his book MILABS. Both tales have all the hallmarks of mind control. Mutwa is therefore, for my money, not a credible witness for David Icke.
David sees Mutwa as ‘proof’ of his thesis in his latest book, and since slightly altered aspects of his views to accommodate Mutwa’s new information. Again, there is severe doubt cast on yet another of David’s main sources of information on the reptilian issue.
However, the alien abduction issue aside, Mutwa seems a very genuine and sincere man, bravely determined to tell the world about what he feels is the plight of his people and their dreadful manipulation by the Illuminati forces. His interview with Spectrum can be read on Icke’s website.
Both Mutwa and Wilder may be consciously absolutely genuine in recounting their experiences according to their memories. But knowing what we do about the long history of Illuminati/intelligence/military abduction and false memory implantation, mind-control etc., for propaganda, subversion and discrediting of witnesses purposes, I believe we need to be extremely careful before buying into what amount to little more than two circumstantial stories that offer next to no proof, given what we know of their backgrounds. One is a self-admitted Illuminati agent, and the other a self-admitted ‘alien abductee’.
I ask you to consider this. Ask you self who benefits from you buying into Wilder’s and Credo Mutwa’s stories? Then consider what David says himself: ‘JUST A COINCIDENCE, NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT!’
It’s entirely up to you. I am just giving this from my viewpoint.
I may be wrong. If I am, I apologise unreservedly for casting aspersions on those who may be genuine. But I think there are enough doubts to warrant further explanation from someone at Bridge of Love. Because if Wilder’s and Desborough’s claims in The Biggest Secret are essentially true, then it needs to be acted upon as a matter of urgency. But the evidence needs to be as accurate and enforceable as possible. At present I don’t believe that a large amount of the so-called ‘evidence’ is any more than highly speculative, inaccurate and suspicious.
Does anybody have any more information to add to this?
Do David or Brian Desborough have any information to give us to show us we can trust Wilder? Is there anything David could tell us about Brian Desborough’s background to allay any doubts we may have about his integrity, considering his massive influence in the content and direction of The Biggest Secret?
Does anybody have any direct proof of any of the wild claims being made? For example, if Mutwa has captured greys and eaten them, then are there any remains, photographs or corroborating witnesses to present? For, until some actual evidence of this story appears, all we have is a very good draft of a science fiction novel that still needs careful work to iron out the inconsistencies in the plot.
I wonder how many of the loopholes in the story will be closed as the thesis is conveniently ironed out over time, so that it serves as the ‘master-theory’ of conspiracy theories? How many remarkable witnesses will appear who have more pieces of the jigsaw as David strives to prove that his theory is really the Biggest Secret?
One historical inconsistency of David’s book has been closed by Mutwa, as he tells of how the reptilians ordered that no direct image of their real appearance was to be depicted by anyone, otherwise that would mean instant death. This conveniently closes a loophole which David missed in his book, that despite claims by him to the contrary, there are actually very few depictions of reptilian gods in ancient sources. Of course we now know why. Instead, we are told, people depicted them in code, using various ciphers such as fish scaled creatures instead of reptilian scales etc.
But oddly, in an interview with Jeff Rense on his Sightings radio show on 14 October 1999, Mutwa claimed that the figure of Darth Maul – the alien ‘baddie’ in the latest Star Wars movie – is an absolute dead ringer for one of these ‘gods’, right down to the color. As yet, I have not heard of the mass demise of George Lucas or the Star Wars makeup department and design team. Like the above example of the grey flesh vs. artificial skin contradiction, such inconsistencies go unchallenged by Icke and, it seems, by most of his audience. David has an excellent track record of bringing hard to get information into the wider public arena. He has worked extremely hard and endured a great deal of ridicule for courageously speaking out and standing up for what he believes in. It would be ‘The Biggest Shame’, if his efforts and work were to be overtaken and used by the very forces he seeks to expose.
From The Truth Campaign issue 15
I believed that he was educated and insightful when I read his first book and had no idea that the information that grabbed me had been taken lock stock and barrel from others. I thought David was special because he was ‘in tune’ and because he reprinted his own and others’ psychic messages about him and what is going on in the world.
When he released his second book, I accepted his word when he said he was in almost daily communication with ascended masters, Jesus Christ, Rkaorski, Saint Germain etc. But I know better now.
I accepted that his – what I would have judged otherwise – intolerable behavior of flaunting his pregnant girlfriend in the face of his wife and expecting her to accept it because if she didn’t she didn’t understand unconditional love. I know better now.
I accepted and was stunned by the conspiracy material in Robot’s Rebellion. I thought his observations and witticisms were profound. That is, until I read Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper which was where most of what I considered astute observations had been taken from, despite David saying directly that he had come up with, for example renaming the Protocols of the Elders of Zion the Illuminati Protocols to get away from the anti-Semitic tag. I know better now. I also know that half of Robot’s is erroneous, even Cooper himself stated that the alien agenda was a fake and he had been used as an unwitting dupe to perpetuate it.
And …and the truth was – and still is in my opinion – one of the best conspiracy books ever written. But I know better now to understand that the alien links are erroneous, and that it is merely a collation of other people’s work, some of whom were not credited. I know now that when David makes a profound statement, or a good witticism, it is most probably directly from someone else, who deserves the praise for it – and the dollars.
I accepted that he published a book called Lifting The Veil, shortly after I gave him a copy of my own book called Lifting the Veil. And on up to 1996, even when I was beginning to hear from various people who were consistently telling me that they had provided information for David, but were surprised at his lack of gratitude, I thought, ‘ah well he’s a busy man and at the forefront of waking people up.‘ And when people started telling me that Icke was brash and rude when not in the public eye, that he was egocentric and behaved like he really expected people to see him as a very important person, I thought they were just misreading a very talented and intelligent man whose spirituality was deep, and that he needed his style and ego to enable him to carry on and get into the limelight, and into the faces of those who needed to know such important truth.
But in September 1996, I was with a number of friends of David and Linda Icke – who had been involved in helping him with his work. Even they didn’t like him personally, found him rude, but believed the ‘work’ transcended any personal feelings. They introduced me to Linda. The very first thing she said to me was ‘David isn’t the man you see on stage. He doesn’t walk his talk.’ During the day she told me that she believed he was mixing with a crowd that were planting disinformation, and he was vulnerable to it because they were sycophantic type women. She told me that David had admitted having ego problems but felt he was over them, and asked Linda to tell him if she saw him going down the ‘ego road again’.
She said she tried, but he wasn’t receptive – he was too concerned with breaking America and his ego had been boosted by the success of …and the truth.
I STILL saw David as ‘the man’ for the job, but by then I had a very different view of him personally. I felt sorry for Linda being treated like a doormat. I realized that Icke had a very distorted opinion of himself, and that this delusion made him vulnerable to his naive view of the material he was writing. I began to agree with those people I now knew, who had been involved with David from the early days, who almost to a person said they couldn’t stand the man personally, did not like his company, but believed he was the best person for the job.
But then, at that time, we all thought he was a very clever man with amazing powers of observation, and that the material he was writing was essentially the truth.
So I started to help him out by sending information. I introduced him to the topic of satanic organizations, I introduced him to the first satanic cult mind control victim, I provided the first health-related material for his then David Icke/Bridge of Love newsletter – 2 of which he put his own name to! I felt confident he would do the research and wasn’t afraid of breaking it into wider consciousness. I had no idea he would make such a pig’s ear of the occult-related information and end up being the instigator of one of the biggest mythologies of our age – the reptilian aliens – and that he would demonize so much that provides the very keys of understanding Creation and the way things are created by the astral level of consciousness, which is controlled by the very forces operating through satanists and Illuminists, religions etc. I didn’t expect him to become the vehicle by which they could introduce a mass psychomemetic virus into the consciousness of those beginning to wake up. And they achieved this quite easily because David Icke was seen by so many as an intelligent, astute, spiritual, nice, trustworthy, discerning and scholarly and special kind of person.
When he came up to meet Patti – the cult victim – I was really beginning to lose the veil I had with David. But the work was important. I saw first hand what those people meant by him being rude. The way he blanked Shona trying to tell him some important information about the occult (she knew a lot about it – Icke didn’t, but he just talked her down). And when he waltzed into my house and sat down without invitation then swiped my cat off the arm of the chair without a blink, I realized that he wasn’t spiritual at all. All that unconditional love stuff is a front. He knows how to sell himself and make people fawn for his material, but when his act ends, the guy is in my view just a rude, arrogant, egomaniac who is struggling with his own masks and trying to convince himself that he’s very special. That cat had more true spirituality in its paw than Icke has in his entire body.
So I stopped defending Icke, but I still promoted his work. Until The Biggest Secret, that is, when I had really started investigating the references, and the subjects in earnest, and found so many errors, and so much ignorance of the subjects on his part that I could no longer ignore it. But having tried to inform him and getting no feedback, but genuinely fearing for his welfare at the hands of organized disinformationists, I posted my concerns on his forum. The rest is history – I became unceremoniously ‘dumped’ in public for saying things on an uncensored forum of ‘the most controversial author and speaker in the world’. And never once did he address any of my concerns or correct errors in his research.
Yes, he corrected a typo. is that a major point you are making? Please consider it in context.
From ‘buy the Truth Campaign, the magazine that tells it like it is’. Suddenly it was nothing, and I was a disinformationist attacking Icke and his work for no discernible reason. He plastered every page of his forum with his total disassociation with me and his site still bears The Truth About The Truth Campaign. Despite informing him that he had misunderstood certain comments that I had made, and had been listening to people who were clearly part of an agenda to create turmoil on the board, discredit me and cause friction between the 2 of us (even the forum moderator told me that because she had access to the board data and knew that people were using multiple handles and playing games), he chose to take the position of self-righteous indignation and personal offense. Hypocrite! How can a man who discredits individuals at the drop of a hat, says he speaks for truth, encourages people to ‘just say it’ when they feel they have important things to say, tells everyone to listen to contrasting opinions, and who openly writes frankly about his personal life choose to be offended by and refuse to listen to conflicting opinions and actively censor an uncensored platform?
But when I saw his words about me and The Truth Campaign, I saw just how manipulative and calculated a disinformationist he was. And how cruel – cold and heartless. And I have seen much more of that since.
Additionally, I was now getting masses of mail and calls about reptilians. I was witnessing the unfolding of the damage his half-researched and erroneous material was having on people. People were one step from the mental hospital – they were in fear, depressed, feeling helpless, and some had started hallucinating, hearing hissing voices and being convinced the reps were everywhere, from their friends and family to hiding in the house. I had to spend quite a bit of time with some to help them through their delusions and happily, it was successful. But I can’t be there for everyone.
At that time I was quite saddened but very very angry. Angry that I had labored under an illusion for so long, and furious that he would behave so dishonestly and against everything he publicly projects onto others. I’d needed to experience it first hand to break the last of the spell. But over the years I have heard from numerous sources how this kind of behavior is nothing new. It’s a common theme that I hear – such as the opinions of Jordan Maxwell and others who claim he has taken and given nothing and unceremoniously dumped them when they were no longer useful.
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