Wikipedia reads “Designed in December 1944, The (Lippisch) cockpit was located in the nose of the fuselage, Main landing gear comprised a retractable skid, while the rear of the aircraft would rest on the reinforced wing tips.”
Either it’s reallllly amazing just how close those Germans got in World War 2 to designing ships that look amazingly like extraterrestrial spacecraft from other worlds – OR – perhaps there’s another explanation. Maybe the German scientists who designed the Hortens and The Lippisch in 1944, given 2 years in U.S. secret labs with a blank check from Uncle Sam, maybe developed a spiffier model by July 1947?
I think you can see where this lecture is really going by now .. There’s a part of me that really just wants to sit down now, thinking maybe I should just quit while I haven’t really offended anyone, yet, with this man-made explanation of the Roswell craft. But, if I do that, eventually most people will bounce back to questions about “the bodies” and the fantastic metal found at the crash site, right? I certainly did, so, I will be getting to those details soon. Just keep in mind, I have introduced the topic of human experimentation by Nazi war criminals, on American citizens, to this discussion, already, for a reason. This only gets worse folks.
Those are photos btw. The author of this book (Hitler’s Flying Saucers by Henry Stevens) appears in a History Channel video I’m going to play for you shortly…
Now this book and the sequel by the same author are really making some waves right now…
“…the SS murdered most of the scientists and technicians involved with the project…”
Joseph P. Farrell was born in Sioux Falls, SD, and received his PhD in Patristics 1987 from Oxford. After teaching college for 17 years, he retired to pursue his interest in alternative science and history research.
The Amazon description reads “In 1945, a mysterious Nazi secret weapons project code-named ‘The Bell’ left its underground bunker in lower Silesia, with its project documentation, and the 4-star SS general Hans Kammler. Taken aboard a massive six engine Junker ultra-long range aircraft, The Bell, Kammler, and all project records disappeared completely, along with the gigantic Junkers carrying them. It has been speculated that it flew to Argentina. (Remember earlier, the American Heritage article I read from, stated that some of the German scientists went to Argentina. Farrell was on Coast-to-Coast with Ian Punnett just this past March (2010)… If I had time I’d play you some of this interview, but it’s on YouTube, which is where I got this image. Ian Punnett is now a big advocate of this gentleman’s theories about Roswell by the way. Joseph Farrell posits that the Roswell craft actually originated in Argentina – again, where some of Germany’s scientists wound up. He names 3 of them by name in this interview. The Amazon description continues…) “As a prelude to this disappearing act, the SS murdered most of the scientists and technicians involved with the project (which tells you that The U.S. DIDN’T get the ones that worked on The Bell aircraft which was) a secret weapon that, according to one German Nobel prize-winning physicist, was given a classification of decisive for the war — the highest security classification. Offered here is a range of exotic technologies the Nazis researched, and challenges to the conventional views of the end of World War Two, the Roswell incident, and the beginning of MAJIC-12, the government’s alleged secret team of UFO investigators.
And here’s Farrell’s new book’s cover, which just came out in February. I only discovered it looking for these other images on Amazon and I haven’t read it yet. And if it turns out he’s right about the Roswell craft originating in Argentina, and I’m partly wrong with what I and others have presented arguing that it possibly coming from the U.S., then so be it – I’m always eager to learn something new and change my mind based on new information. Not everybody is, of course. The point is merely presenting that I think there are valid arguments that the craft recovered in 1947 didn’t come from outer space.
So before moving on, I’ve concentrated mainly on the Horten model, and it’s resemblance to the Kenneth Arnold sightings that made flying saucers a buzz-word in United States media before July 1947. Remember much of the furor and hoopla surrounding the immediate global response to the 1947 Roswell Daily Record article was precisely because we already knew, at the time, that amazingly advanced airships were being seen all across the U.S. and reported on nationally, but the scoop of the century came when the headlines read “Roswell Army Air Field Captures Flying Saucer On Ranch in Roswell Region”
So the fact that there was now one on the ground and that perhaps Americans could now finally know the truth and find out what these things were was packed with promise and excitement! However, history tells us that didn’t happen – the public was never permitted to find out the truth behind the Roswell crash – and if the line of reasoning I’m proposing has any resemblance to the truth, perhaps now we’re beginning to see why.
The phrase “You can’t handle the truth” does come to mind. If there’s any Nazi / Operation Paperclip connection to the Roswell Incident at all, I don’t think 1940’s Americana society really wanted to know that we had hundreds of Nazis living here on secret military bases and working for us, to make sure we could defend our new title as undisputed World Champion Superpower … and the President and top military brass sure as heck didn’t want to own up to it either – especially given that the president’s explicit orders were disobeyed and circumvented by what would become The CIA. I’m suggesting that the moral outrage of that fact getting out in the 1940’s, would have been at least as bad, and divisive an issue to our country, as The Vietnam War was in the 60’s and 70’s.
Again, if what I’m suggesting here even resembles the truth, I’d ask you to think for a minute on whether the US government was actually RIGHT in covering it up. It’s of course highly debatable still today whether we even should have brought these guys into the country, but after World War 2 we had the cold war starting up, and all the evidence suggests that The Soviet Union and at least half a dozen other countries WERE recruiting these scientists and taking them and their technology into their borders. Where would we be today, if we had not done the same? We’d be standing on the moral high ground, yes, but we’d probably be a third world country by now as well. Tough call, no matter how you look at it.
The books I’ve previewed you here hint that there were other types of flying craft being designed by Nazi Germany. I of course can’t major on all of them today, but I would like to show you 3 minutes of a History Channel program just to let your mind go where it will. This is for free viewing on History.com – search Real Nazi UFOs, and I think you can buy the whole documentary.
Substitute video below (I can’t find the History Channel one he mentions) that shows real Nazi UFO-type technology.
Okay that’s some pretty amazing imagery and information for a three minute video, right? BUT, let me be the first to say “Don’t believe everything you see on the History Channel” okay? I don’t want to undermine a premise that I myself put out, but to end this portion let me share a more balanced thought with you from a Burlington News article on “Hitler’s UFOs” that says
However, exactly what was being developed is now less a matter of historical record, and more of an historical jigsaw, with not only pieces missing, but other pieces conceived in the minds of writers who then peddled fictitious Nazi flying saucer myths to those who chose to believe them.
Establishing fact from fiction from over fifty years ago is no easy matter, and we are forced to consider information that is largely unverifiable. Yet when pieced together a plausible story of Nazi flying disk technology does begin to emerge. http://www.burlingtonnews.net/hitlersufo.html
So in closing out the Nazi UFO portion of my website, I summarize it this way.
The TRUE facts are…
1) In 1940-45 Nazi scientists were aggressively developing amazing flying machines…
2) In 1945 The U.S. moved them to Texas and White Sands Proving Grounds, New Mexico…
3) In 1947 an unidentified flying object crashes in the New Mexico desert, and the military enforces the greatest cover-up of any event ever discovered by the general public…
So with this new information in your head, perhaps for the first time for many of you, my question becomes, “Where do you think the craft recovered in 1947 most likely came from?” Mars? Alpha Centauri? The Pleadian Star system? I’m not here to tell you what to think, just to maybe make you think about this topic in a way that you probably never have before. And there’s nothing wrong with that, because most the information that I’ve presented today, wasn’t readily available to you perhaps until just now.
The Bodies
Switching gears, the obvious question becomes, “What about the bodies?” I’ll apologize in advance, because I know this is going to offend some of you. That’s not my intent, but getting to the truth is, and I just let the research take me where it would, even though it turned out to be pretty dark.
In the previous section on Operation Paperclip, I introduced the ugly fact that human experimentation was part of what the Nazi scientists were guilty of before they came here. Linked from my website, there’s an article on the George Washington University’s National Securities Archive page. And unlike the Nasa.gov and army.mil pages, that I used to link to to support my theory, GWU has never removed this page since I started linking to it… http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/dir/mstreet/commeet/meet13/brief13/tab_f/br13f3.txt (Well, they have now… that link is dead, but here’s an archived version). Also, screenshot below…
It’s just a plain text document that matter-of-factly discusses the Paperclip scientists, as well as the radiation experiments they conducted IN the United States, AFTER they were here, AT the Air Force School of Aviation Medicine. It’s addressed to
Members of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments
and it reads in part,
The Air Force’s School of Aviation Medicine (SAM) at Brooks Air Force Base in Texas conducted dozens of human radiation experiments during the Cold War, among them flashblindness studies in connection with atomic weapons tests, and data gathering for total-body irradiation studies conducted in Houston.
and
The experiments for which Nazi investigators were tried included many related to aviation research. These were mainly high-altitude exposure studies, oxygen deprivation experiments, and cold studies related to air-sea rescue operations. This information about air crew hazards was important to both sides …
It continues elsewhere
“A number of military research sites recruited Paperclip scientists with backgrounds in aeromedicine and radiobiology… The portfolio of experiments at the U.S. Air Force’s School of Aviation Medicine… included total-body irradiation and space medicine.”
Now this is sad, and in some effect, damning. It’s a sad but true part of our American history that our government has at many times experimented on humans without their knowledge or consent. There are many lists of such acts online. Here’s one from Rense.com
You might find this hard to believe, but as recently as 1997, Senator and former astronaut John Glenn submitted a bill to congress to only finally protect Americans from being research subjects without their consent. Addressing Congress, he said
ILLEGAL HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION SEN. JOHN GLENN TO 105 CONGRESS /1997 S.193 – The Human Research Subject Protection Act”]
“I began to ask the question, what protections are in place to prevent such abuses from happening again? What law prohibits experimenting on people without their informed consent?
“What I found, when I looked into it, is there is no law on the books requiring that informed consent be obtained. I believe there is a need for such a law…
“I find it astounding that even after Nuremberg … we still don’t have a law on our books requiring that informed consent — those two words, `informed consent’–be obtained prior to conducting research on human subjects….
“Finally Mr. President, my legislation would …”
1997, John Glenn is recommending legislation that you and I have to be “informed” of any time the government wants experiment on us! This should be shocking to you. But it’s a cold hard fact that the U.S. government – and frankly, anybody – had carte blanche to experiment on humans without their knowledge or consent because of some serious loopholes in the legal system that Senator Glenn pointed out in this speech. And that definitely includes the early days of the Cold War era, and the period between 1945 and July of 1947…
So, relating to Roswell, once you’re not afraid to go where I don’t think many Americans living in 1947 would have even dreamed of, there are definitely a few possible explanations for the reported bodies that have arisen. The most well-documented – which I’ll share with you in just a moment – was proposed by well-known UFO researcher Nick Redfern in his 2005 book Body Snatchers in the Desert: The Horrible Truth at the Heart of the Roswell Story.
I didn’t know Nick well then I was writing my theory, much less that he was following some leads and working on a book about a man-made explanation of the Roswell Incident. But on my site I put forth a “total shot in the dark” hypothesis about the bodies.. and that being 2002, I don’t remember exactly what inspired me to do this, but I was aware then somewhat that human experimentation occurred, and also that institutionalized people, those who wouldn’t be as readily missed, were sometimes targets. I simply went to Google and based on what some prominent Roswell story-tellers claimed, I typed in “Symptoms: large bald head, big eyes…” And I learned for the first time, about Progeria.
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