The author Ms Gibson here lays out – beautifully – the rationale for Operation Paperclip, and the fact that these two separate articles came out in November 2005 kind of indicates that whoever controls the press these days is kind of “okay” with the American people finding out about the Nazis working on US soil – 60 years after the fact. But are you beginning to understand now, that under no circumstances could that information be let out in 1947? What if you had just lost two sons fighting the Nazi’s – how would you react in 1947 to finding out they’re living in the United States and eating well on your tax dollars? All that I have just read introduces a topic I’ll be getting back to later… that these Paperclip scientists were not only brilliant when it comes to technology, but were both adept at and willing to perform experiments on human test subjects, specifically, she said, “to determine what pilots could withstand.” I’m just warning you now that this lecture is going to take a very dark turn shortly.
So back to the Horten vehicle… Here’s a few more pictures…
A 2009 National Geographic article documents the re-creation of a Horten noting, as many other sources likewise state, that mass production of these things could have changed the course of the war. Wikipedia states that these jets exceeded 600 miles per hour – way faster than anything The U.S. had, and flew to almost 50,000 feet. – Here’s the close-up…
These last pictures are from a discussion thread and I can’t tell you where these were gathered from as they don’t cite sources, but they’re really good pictures…
Okay so we know Germany had these vehicles in prototype production prior to the end of World War 2. That’s a fact, and anybody who wants to do this research themselves will find that they can’t dispute me so far. BUT does that necessarily mean that the American military had them also? And what’s all this got to do with Roswell, right? Here’s some documentation from before 2005.
This is a January 1946 document from Mike Heiser‘s website. It originates from – of all places – looking at the top right, Wright Field, Dayton Ohio .. Again, the Wright Field connection, where the Roswell debris wound up. I’ve added the red text so you can read the small type of the report’s title – .. It’s unclassified now, but this is the actual cover page of a document that proves the United States “Air Corp” had a working knowledge of the German Flying Wings Designed by the Horten Brothers, and was authorized to begin work on them here in the US.
And if that’s not enough evidence for you here’s a picture of one being unloaded from a train in August of 1945 in the USA. The Wikipedia caption reads “Unloading of captured Horten Ho IX V3 in the USA.”
The Wikipedia entry for the Horten ends by saying “During the final stages of the war, the U.S. military initiated Operation Paperclip, which was an effort by the various intelligence agencies to capture advanced German weapons research, and to deny that research to advancing Soviet troops. A Horten glider and the Ho 229 V3, which was undergoing final assembly, were secured and sent to Northrop Corporation in the United States for evaluation. Northrop was chosen because of their experience with flying wings, inspired by the Horten brothers’ pre-war record-setting glider. Jack Northrop had been building flying wings since the N-1M in 1939.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229
Why is this important for our purposes today? Well for two reasons .. #1 If you didn’t work for Northrop Corporation or for The United States military compartment that brought this aircraft over here from Germany in August 1945 – or if you weren’t privy to Operation Paperclip in the mid-1940’s – odds are, you didn’t know that a craft of this type (or many others which I’ll show you in a moment) even existed, much less had made it to the United States for R&D purposes.
This is important #2 for this reason –
Who knows who this is? …Kenneth Arnold – the pilot who in June 1947 said that he witnessed some amazingly fast airships over Mt Ranier in Washington State. He described their flight characteristics as “skipping like a saucer” and as a result, in June 1947 The Press first coined the phrase “Flying Saucer”.
Which is actually wrong, as many researchers today often point out. Ken Arnold said it skipped “like a saucer” NOT that it looked like a saucer. Now that we know that the Nazi scientists brought to the US in Operation Paperclip were working on reproducing these craft for American use, who here would argue that what Kenneth Arnold described in 1947 was really from outer space?
Some people that are really researched on the Roswell Incident already know what I’m about to share, and I think it will interest many of you to know that the craft recovered around the Roswell region in 1947 was not actually round in shape, as you may have pictured in your head due to cartoon artwork or Hollywood renditions. Most of us know that the 2 main books on Roswell that got everybody’s attention were Crash at Corona by Don Berliner and Stanton Friedman of course, who is speaking at the UFO Museum – and The Truth About The UFO Crash at Roswell by Kevin Randle and Don Schmitt. Don Schmitt also speaks at the UFO Museum almost every year, and of course he and Stanton Friedman propose the extra-terrestrial explanation.
You may have noticed when you came in the poster I have of drawings by Frank Kaufman, who was at least in the Roswell Army Air Base’s 509th Bomb Squad, and claimed to have been involved in the clean-up of the wreckage, and the bodies. That poster that he drew is his alleged first-hand eye-witness testimony of what he cleaned up, or at least saw, and you may have noticed that the version of the craft he drew is also not round, but more “manta” shaped than circular. The book “UFO Crash at Roswell” depends largely on Frank Kaufmann’s testimony, and also notes in the caption under Don Schmitt’s drawing based on Kaufmann AND OTHER witnesses’ testimony, that “The craft that crashed at Roswell was long and narrow; it was not a flying saucer.” Although nowadays Kevin Randle and Don Schmitt have both stated that they no longer affirm Kaufmann’s complete testimony, if any of it, the book based on it is of course still out there influencing young minds today. You’d have to review their newest materials to find that out – But they believed him largely because Walter Haut recommended him.
But here are two more of Kaufmann’s drawings of the craft he allegedly saw, published in the book Roswell 1947: I Was There
by Robert Shirkey.
Robert Shirkey is about the ONLY original Roswell witness nobody has successfully debunked by the way. Although Walter Haut is definitely credible at least in the fact of his original claim that he carried the Roswell press release that is famous world-wide. That much is certainly true. Some of his later quotes and especially the affidavits published after his death do sometimes contradict each other, and his original statements, and many Roswell researchers have detailed those inconsistencies. I’m not going to here.
All we know for sure is that witnesses are inconsistent on whether the Roswell crashed ship was round, or more triangular, or manta-shaped. Since it’s also argued that the idea for the B-2 bomber came from the Roswell crash, that kind of argues against the “round” or “disc” hypothesis, and I’ve already submitted the 1944 Horten to you. But we do know FOR SURE that the U.S. had scientists here working from German designs. While we do have real pictures of the Horten, there’s yet another German prototype vehicle “the Lippisch P 13”
that we only have sketches and models of, because while the Nazis were starting to work on the prototype, the war ended before anyone can verify one was actually built, and then Operation Paperclip grabbed up all the existing sketches, prototypes, and scientists they could relating to these craft.
Here’s a modern model of what the Lippisch, if built, would have looked like.
So, German aircraft scientists who were designing and testing both The Horten and arguably The Lippisch were now doing so in the U.S. beginning in 1945.
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